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Ranger Tom  : (16 May 2012 - 08:24 PM) Looks like sean went full retard again.
sean  : (16 May 2012 - 07:13 PM)
Ranger Tom  : (16 May 2012 - 06:01 PM) Try and get swampdummy to come back. Seeing that you called your friend one of the worst types of American there is he won't be by anytime soon.
Ranger Tom  : (16 May 2012 - 05:59 PM) Maybe she's busy washing of her jizz soaked face
Ranger Tom  : (16 May 2012 - 05:59 PM) Hurry and get your idiot friend to help you out.
Ranger Tom  : (16 May 2012 - 05:58 PM) How is the marxist obama in the polls doing lately against a non viable candidate like Romney? obama must be ahead by 70% by now right, dimwit?
Ranger Tom  : (16 May 2012 - 05:57 PM) How come you don't post a poll about that? LMAO!!!!
Ranger Tom  : (16 May 2012 - 05:57 PM) How far ahead is Walker in the RECALL effort dimwit?
Ranger Tom  : (16 May 2012 - 05:56 PM) I like to compliment you...only as an idiot could be complimented. You're welcome, you earned it mental midget
sean  : (16 May 2012 - 05:55 PM) Coming from a blow-hard spaz mornon. I take that as a complement.
Ranger Tom  : (16 May 2012 - 05:53 PM) We know you don't care. You're an idiot
Ranger Tom  : (16 May 2012 - 05:52 PM) Did he win or lose this election you claim that already has taken place?
sean  : (16 May 2012 - 05:52 PM) Stay ignorant if you want. I could care less.
sean  : (16 May 2012 - 05:52 PM) You can guess a lot of bullshit tom. The whole reason for the election is that he was recalled.
Ranger Tom  : (16 May 2012 - 05:50 PM) I guess the recall hasn't taken place yet
Ranger Tom  : (16 May 2012 - 05:50 PM) Child porn? are you the director?
Ranger Tom  : (16 May 2012 - 05:50 PM) When is the recall election dimwit?
sean  : (16 May 2012 - 05:46 PM) At least it will keep you from watching child porn for a few minutes
sean  : (16 May 2012 - 05:46 PM) Really? Go learn for yourself.
Ranger Tom  : (16 May 2012 - 05:41 PM) Really? When did the recall take place?
sean  : (16 May 2012 - 05:40 PM) He has been recalled. You where meaning to ask. Will he be re-elected?
Ranger Tom  : (16 May 2012 - 05:35 PM) Who thinks Walker will get recalled? I certaintly don't but a certain dimwit might
sean  : (16 May 2012 - 05:33 PM)
sean  : (16 May 2012 - 05:33 PM) www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLuzeXqMeJg
sean  : (16 May 2012 - 05:20 PM) Looks like Americans don't want a president with holy underwear and a track record of firing 10's of thousands of americans
Pigdog  : (16 May 2012 - 05:03 PM) Hmmm?...looks like the woman's choice this fall is between having a job or having free birth control pills...huh?
Ranger Tom  : (16 May 2012 - 04:40 PM) obama's admin can be described as hopeless and helpless.
Pigdog  : (16 May 2012 - 01:49 PM) I'll bet a lot of those who was promised "Hope" are thinking it's hopeless after 4 years of Obama...huh?
sean  : (16 May 2012 - 11:49 AM) Piggy we have always known you were hopeless.
Pigdog  : (16 May 2012 - 11:24 AM) You mean like Obama's "Hope"..he promised back in '08
Ptech  : (16 May 2012 - 11:22 AM) Be careful, Piggie...sometimes you get what you hope for...
Pigdog  : (16 May 2012 - 11:19 AM) I can't wait for the presidential debates.....Romney will be talking about turning the economy around and Obama will be offering (for a limited time Only)...FREE!..Birth control...just pay shipping and handling.... :110103_smashing_prv:
Elizabeta  : (16 May 2012 - 10:45 AM) bahahahah Cat-Toast!
Ptech  : (16 May 2012 - 10:24 AM) LOL!! Yeah, he's behind the times...the Repugs have been bitching about those for twenty years...they're not so interested any more...
Pigdog  : (16 May 2012 - 09:18 AM) Obama's message...voters don't want to hear about boring stuff like the economy and deficits...they want to hear about birth control and same sex marriage..!
Ptech  : (16 May 2012 - 08:53 AM) Embrace the Airborne Noodly-ness...
Pigdog  : (16 May 2012 - 06:09 AM) How long before it's obvious to most that "Hope" is a scam..sean?
TheMagicNegro  : (16 May 2012 - 06:05 AM) Like hell!
TheMagicNegro  : (16 May 2012 - 06:04 AM) Can't we all just get along?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 10:10 PM)
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:42 PM) Do you think those people who want hope would vote for a wall street corperate raider?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 05:25 PM) I wonder how many people voted for Obama in '08 basing their decision on "Hope"..?.....Hmmmm?...I wonder how their patience is holding up..?
Will Obama tell those folks..."Come on..you have to give "Hope" a chance..It's only been 4 years...for crying out loud..."
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 03:46 PM) Posted Image
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 03:44 PM) Posted Image
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 03:37 PM) IDK who you are trying to convince. I could give a shit, but it doesn't sound likely
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 03:33 PM) not to mention, IRC is running quite easily on my laptop. Guess I can listen, read and type at the same time also? Bwahahahahahah
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 03:32 PM) oh is plane got struck by lightning
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 03:32 PM) Wow, Gully, you sound intellectually incapacitated
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 03:31 PM) I can read and listen at the same time, amazing huh?
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 03:31 PM) Part 1 on youtube is under 6 minutes. the torrent downloaded at 1MB/sec
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 03:31 PM) New French President got struck by lightning?
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 03:30 PM) You did all that in 7 minutes. Wow, that doesn't sound truthful.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 03:30 PM) i don't live in F.U.D. about my existence
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 03:30 PM) I don't have a conspiracy laden alley
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 03:30 PM) oh, golly, gully, you can get it here too, just like I did: http://h33t.com/tor/...b-ager-2012-55m
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 03:30 PM) In fact, if I were to guess, he is a liberal. Right up your conspiracy laden alley
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 03:29 PM) I just downloaded his commentary, watched it on youtube, read his website... and talked to my conspiracy theory buds about him. did a lot of homework on your tidbit of info. Ever done the same with any of mine?
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 03:28 PM) And a google search of the guy doesn't mean you know anything about him or know what I am talking about
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 03:26 PM) I don't think the meaning of the obelisk was a conspiracy. It's certainly debatable, but no conspiracy
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 03:25 PM) bet you sleep with it.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 03:24 PM) How tattered is the cover of your copy of "Comes a Pale Horse", Gully?
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 03:23 PM) you have no idea who I am, and I like it that way :)
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 03:22 PM) LOL Gully, your friend Rob Ager is a staple on Conspiracy Central. He even asserts that Arthur C. Clarke wasn't aware of Kubrick's "hidden propaganda" agenda. Typical shite from a neanderthal like yourself. I'm all up in your conspiracy theories and messin' wit yo paranoia! LOL
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 03:20 PM) walked right into that one didn't you dipshit?
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 03:19 PM) she didn't venture a guess. Isn't that EXACTLY what you do when I don't answer your questions?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 03:18 PM) hey liz Guillit thinks you don't understand oblesk's bwahahahhahahaha
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 03:08 PM) try searching Rob Ager and 2001 on youtube
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 03:06 PM) That's what I thought, go look it up....
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 03:05 PM) Sure that you don't chimpanzee Gully.
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 03:05 PM) Poor Beta, fumbling around the edges of things she doesn't understand...pitiful
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 03:03 PM) probably don't get the obelisk huh Beta?
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 03:02 PM) Posted Image
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 02:59 PM) I can't imagine why these poor old men traded dignity for a lottery where they can pretend to be rich some day. Some people will belive anything.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 02:58 PM) Remember the Space Shuttle that recently flew right above my head in DC? it went to space, bet you are surprised, huh, Gully?
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 02:56 PM) Gully, bet you still think we never landed on the moon, huh? And that evidence of life doesn't exist on Mars? LOL
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 02:53 PM) Funny that anyone thinks we'll be colonizing planets any time soon. Of course, a lot of things these idiots think would make the most somber person laugh
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 02:49 PM) It wasn't me who figured anything out...it was folks like you who screwed it up..!
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 02:46 PM) Piggy seeing you have it all figured out you should start a blog and teach these youngins you perfect plan.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 02:09 PM) *facepalm*
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 02:07 PM) If Lizzy gets to colonize another planet..it will be at some liberal's whim...if she has her way..huh?
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 01:58 PM) Gullit, you're drunk again. Re-read what I wrote.
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 01:57 PM) Colonize the planet? WTF? What kind of psychotropic drugs do they have you on Beta?
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 01:18 PM) While we are colonizing other planets, your kind will still be raising goats, alone, on their farm, surrounded by 100-foot high fences and automatic weapons. LOL
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 01:14 PM) Pigdog, your "theories" (actually hypotheses), are flawed because they assume that every human being is a single sustaining lone organism, and can thrive without any other human contact or support. That has been proven wrong over and over by studies in biology, anthropology, sociology, etc... and will likely be proven wrong on the quantum level as well. You are an anachronism, and your kind of thinking will eventually die out. The earth, this biosphere, this universe is so much bigger than your small egotistical desires. Your kind will be extinguished by your inability to evolve, adapt, and join the rest of us who are excited to be alive.
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 12:06 PM) No you live in a jungle I live in a civilization. If you ever want to grow up and get involved we are here.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 10:41 AM) We do live in the jungle sean...be it a socialist jungle or a capitalist jungle....in the socialist jungle..you'll never get any more than the dominant socialist allows you to have....
Where's the "Hope" in that sean..?
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 10:16 AM) Just like a socialist. Trying to keep people "in their place"
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 10:12 AM) We use our power of communication to keep the alpha thug to keep the alpha in his place. Kinda like occupy. If you want to live by the rules of the jungle. Go live in the jungle piggy.
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 10:11 AM) You know what is interesting about humans over ducks.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 09:55 AM) What's funny about the ducks is there really isn't any way for one to physically hurt the other but one will freak the hell out of the other one with intimidation..
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 09:53 AM) Ever raise ducks sean?...funny to watch them..they have a pecking order..pretty much like humans do.....
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 09:47 AM) Pretty telling that a former real estate agent wont comment on the cheif complaint of Occupy and wants to demonize and blame the victims. Pretty telling indeed.
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 09:37 AM) In the end every persons like has 1 of 2 purposes. To inspire or to warn.
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 09:36 AM) Yeah just pretend i didn't say what i said and keep going with your "theory".
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 09:30 AM) You've said the same for those who didn't go to college..
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 09:30 AM) It's all about success and failure....sean...you make the bed you have to sleep in....sean..
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 09:28 AM) You make sweeping generalizations and then tear down those generalizations like that is some form of argument.
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 09:28 AM) You havn't read anything they have put out. All you have is what you learned on false noise. Do you think that is sufficient to form a theory?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 09:27 AM) Perhaps an understanding of what is going on with Occupy?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 09:27 AM) Is the real reason so many fail is due to them just accepting failure as the status quo?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 09:26 AM) Sitting around getting high isn't going to make you a success is it?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 09:25 AM) Perhaps Ambition maybe?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 09:25 AM) What is missing sean?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 09:25 AM) It isn't a theory. It is failed rhetoric with a shit ton of false assumptions.
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 09:24 AM) Tools and Skill isn't the whole of success.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 09:24 AM) Why are you attacking me and not arguing why My theory is flawed sean?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 09:24 AM) You have yet to comment on there cheif complaint.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 09:23 AM) Everyone pretty much has access to the same tools sean..just because some suck at using them should not make them entitled to the things of the one's who figured it out
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 09:23 AM) You know how i know your being manipulated?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 09:22 AM) on false noise?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 09:22 AM) You see how stupid your WS protesters look sean..?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 09:22 AM) I wonder why you waste so much energy and imagination trying to demonize progress.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 09:21 AM) Should those who failed be marching out in front of the successful goat herder's 100 acres raising hell in protest?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 09:20 AM) Should those who managed to grow their herds have to break up those herds and have to give them to the one's who failed to build their herds?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 09:19 AM) How many would become successful and how many would fail....I mean now..they all started out equal...would they all achieve equal success sean?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 09:18 AM) I wonder if someone did an experiment...say take 100 of those protesters and give each a 100 acres and 2 does and a buck dairy goat...then come back and record their success...what would we likely find?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 09:16 AM) Piggy, you have a first rate mind for the 13th century.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 09:00 AM) Someone still has to milk the goat Lizzy....
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:59 AM) Obama is trying hard to get more and more addicted here...
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:58 AM) They are addicted to subsidies..
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:58 AM) Just look over in the EU....when the gov hints of cutting back services..they raise wholey hell...
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:57 AM) Humans should be but they aren't any different...once they lose the skill to provide for themselves...most won't get it back..
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:56 AM) people need community to thrive, and mental stimulation to develop. Humans adapt with their intelligence and ability to self-reflect. Other animals don't have the same capacity. Your analogy is ridiculous.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:55 AM) yes they are. That is where you are so wrong, Piggy. So wrong.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:54 AM) You take a baby animal from the woods and raise it...it will have a hard time surviving if you release it back into the woods when it's older.....humans are no different..
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:50 AM) It's called community.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:50 AM) I am fortunate to have the mental capacity and adaptability to thrive. I want others to have those things also, and will do what I can to help them help themselves.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:49 AM) I am privileged to live in the USA.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:49 AM) I'm happy to help where I can.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:49 AM) I think I live in the United States, and that Mr. Obama has a salary that is already set. He's not looking to raise it. He is looking to help my fellow Americans.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:48 AM) You think Obama should be entitled to more of your money?
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:48 AM) That's a wealth that money can't buy.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:48 AM) Even when i was nearly homeless, i still loved being alive.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:47 AM) I have plenty of money to take care of myself and have whatever kind of life I want. The difference between you and me is that I am happy. I was happy when I was dirt poor too.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:47 AM) I know how to make more money, but I'm not interested in directing my efforts into becoming caught up in the lust for more more more more. I find it pointless.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:46 AM) Obama is playing y'all like a fiddle!
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:46 AM) Should you be pissed and want those who have figured out how to make more money punished because you haven't figured it out?
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:46 AM) I live very comfortably as it is.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:45 AM) Why do I need 7 figures?
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:45 AM) I agree, Piggy. When I was wiping ass as a nursing assistant, I was the best Professional Ass Wiper in the world, but I made less than 7 bucks an hour...
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:45 AM) Why not 7 figures ?
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:45 AM) We both earn above six figures. Not bad, huh?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:44 AM) Not saying sean isn't a crackerjack programmer....but hell...I'm good at raising goats!...doesn't have a thing to do with success Lizzy!
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:44 AM) He had a traditional education and served in the Army, I did neither one. We earn close to the same amount and compete at the same level. What's your point, Piggy?
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:43 AM) Sean IS a success, by his own efforts, just like me. What's your point, Piggy?
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:43 AM) I'm not surprised that you don't understand the value of what used to be known as a "well-rounded" education across disciplines, Gullit.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:42 AM) Just like sean...."Hey I'm smart!..I can Program!..Not many can do that!...now where is my success damnit!".... :23_11_62:
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:41 AM) Well just like those WS protester...they have a fancy tool box but have not learned the skill to use them....they want that handed to them as well...their whining is a show of jealousy...
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 08:35 AM) And government funded college should be for those degrees that have useful job applicable knowledge
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:34 AM) Kids should be taught the skills to move up in life....not just handed a tool box full of tools with no instructions...
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:31 AM) is that why she got pregnant?
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:31 AM) wonder how I managed to never get pregnant, have any idea, Piggy?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:31 AM) I worked with a woman who had her third child and she got to move up to a larger apartment...
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:30 AM) hmm... screwing does cause pregnancy, Piggy :P
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:30 AM) I doubt if there's anyone that doesn't know screwing won't cause pregnancy...
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:29 AM) so sad? Sounds condescending to me...
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:29 AM) could it be because they are uneducated about birth control, educational opportunities, etc?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:29 AM) It's become a way to survive...so sad..
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:29 AM) you really think that is why they get pregnant?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:29 AM) Girls getting pregnant at 13 so they can get their own checks...
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:28 AM) hmmm... Bayou Billionaires and their "mailbox money"? huh?
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:28 AM) I think you judge first and forget to ask questions at all
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:28 AM) Some will escape...most don't have the ambition to do anything but wait for the next check..
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:27 AM) or you assume you know
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:27 AM) so, you psychically know what is going on with those people?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:27 AM) No...I see it when I go to the grocery store...
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:27 AM) I've done all those things, and more.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:27 AM) work with them, care for them, talk to them, then you and I can have a real discussion
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:26 AM) go out and talk to the homeless, and those on social programs
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:26 AM) There are no privileged...except maybe for the children of those who were ambitious....
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:26 AM) I think a lot of your "witnessing" is from faux news and not actual real-life experience
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:25 AM) I've witnessed social programs making folks dependent upon social programs....generations of folks...
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:25 AM) There is a big difference between the "easy" of a "privileged" life and that of being on a government assistance
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:25 AM) Piggy, I think you and the rightnuts have a false idea that social programs make it "easy" on others, and that's a myopic view
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:23 AM) that's the thing, right there. "not going to be easy". so what? Who said life was supposed to be easy? LOL
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:23 AM) I wouldn't dismiss the resilience of the kids you think are so pampered.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:23 AM) I'm sure the newphew will make it...he has no choice...not going to be easy though...he's got some learning to do..
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:22 AM) Bottom line, is that I rose to the challenges when they were put in front of my face. I also worked from a young age, and wasn't given money by my parents.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:21 AM) When I was a kid...and I needed some money my dad would say..there's the push lawn mower..if you want some money...go hit the neighbors up and see if they need their lawn mowed....otherwise you are going to be poor!
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:21 AM) My family had different ideas, and I was completely naive
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:20 AM) It was expected that my parents would put me through school and I wouldn't have to work.. blah blah blah
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:20 AM) My friends went to ivy league schools and had wealthy parents.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:20 AM) I wouldn't give up so quickly on him, if I were you. I was raised "soft" as far as my socio-economic class at college age
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:20 AM) Is he going to become one of those protesters..?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:19 AM) His parents believe he should enjoy his childhood and not be burdened with responsibility
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:19 AM) too bad, he'll either live, learn, and adapt, or become a parasite, or die.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:18 AM) My newphew has got a couple years left in college...never had more than a burger flipping job to get some spending money....he's 21 going on 12...
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:18 AM) In fact, people worked actively to set me back...
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 08:18 AM) Those with power stop competing and start manipulating to maintain there power.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:18 AM) NO ONE nurtured my ambition...
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 08:18 AM) The problem is Piggy you are trying to apply all the positives about the traditional ethos of the american dream while ignoring the negitives
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:17 AM) It is not easy to take the road I took, but it was the only way I knew, with the tools I had at the time. I'm grateful for what I've learned through experience. My life has been exciting and interesting. And, I know Sean personally ;) BONUS!
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:17 AM) Just saying ambition should be nurtured...not attacked.....or punished...
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:16 AM) agreed
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:16 AM) Negativity is probably what keeps the majority from achieving...
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:16 AM) Look who's laughing now....
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:16 AM) Hmm... I learned through trial, error, and experience. People around me told me I would never make it without college, a husband, etc. etc. etc.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:15 AM) Just saying the road has hazards...how you jog around those must be learned..
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:14 AM) If I focused only on the possible negative outcomes of every choice, I'd be paralyzed and die. Not a good way to live your life.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:14 AM) why think about Mr. Murphy? It only drags down your aspirations.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:13 AM) Yes of course shit can happen.....you best run with success before Mr. Murphy catches wind of it...
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 08:12 AM) The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned; but time and chance happen to them all.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:11 AM) Yes...education is merely a tool...not success itself...it has to be used properly to achieve a desired result..
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 08:11 AM) Piggy, what are those protesters protesting?
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:10 AM) Remember, I never completed college, but I successfully compete with people who have advanced degrees. I get paid and treated the same as my degreed peers. How's that for ambition?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:10 AM) Those protesters!
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:10 AM) who is dismissing anything this successful man did?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:10 AM) Not at all Lizzy....but those who are satisfied should quit whining about those who weren't..
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 08:09 AM) Your ex brother-in-law has valuable knowledge, no matter how much our in-house elitists want to dismiss their knowledge as unimportant or irrelevant
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:09 AM) I used to work in management, but am happier now as an analyst, than I was as a director.
Elizabeta  : (15 May 2012 - 08:09 AM) Are you saying there is something wrong with being satisfied with one's job, Piggy?
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 08:08 AM) Sean would say that he doesn't deserve his money, because there are people with degrees that have to work at Burger King
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:07 AM) My un-educated ex-brother in law became successful by going to Tech and learning to be an auto mechanic.....he wasn't happy though just working on cars...he wanted to own the shop!...that got boring so he opened several shops!...with more bays!...hell that became boring so he started selling cars at his own dealership he bought....on and on and on....Ummm? does sean have the ambition to own his own programming company?...or is he simply satisfied with where in life he has put himself..?
Who's fault would that be....my brother in law?
Should my brother in law have to give sean part of his success because sean lacks ambition?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:02 AM) But of course after folks elected the politician and then found out there wasn't enough goat milk to go around because no one was doing the milking....imagine how pissed they'd be?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 08:01 AM) Imagine how popular a politician would be if he come around promising everyone free goat milk and they won't have to do any milking.....he'd certainly get sean and ptech's vote...right?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:59 AM) If the gov is going to hand out goat milk...who the hell will want to milk the goat?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:58 AM) It's all about the "Little Red Hen"....no one wants to make the damn bread but everyone wants to have a portion to eat!
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:56 AM) You want to come over and milk my goats for me?...I mean why the hell do "I" have to do the milking...why can't the gov just send me some goat milk?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:55 AM) No it doesn't
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:55 AM) Does that take away from what I pay or what proportion I pay?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:54 AM) I help pay for police and fire protection as well...
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:54 AM) Well now I also help pay for those roads.....
Ptech  : (15 May 2012 - 07:51 AM) Almost as good as when Quayle said "It isn't pollution that's harming our environment, it's the impurities in our water and air that are doing it."..."
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:51 AM) Proably planned by Huey Long bwahahahaha
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:51 AM) *hint Piggy, those roads that lead to your farm were paid for, in part, by me.
Ptech  : (15 May 2012 - 07:50 AM) "I like raising goats because I enjoy it." Classic...
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:48 AM) What makes you think I don't?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:47 AM) Maybe you should give me some of yours..huh?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:47 AM) At the end of the day, we all want to feed and provide for our families and enjoy the company of our friends.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:47 AM) Well now so you learned to program because you enjoy it...I like raising goats because I enjoy it...ummm?..how come you make more money than me then?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:47 AM) You can't feed everyones highest asperations of there ego. You can create a society were everyone has dignity
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:46 AM) There has to be an equalibrium.
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:46 AM) You can't make everyone rich
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:45 AM) You can't teach or hand out ambition sean...you can only discourage it...
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:45 AM) No piggy I became a programmer because I like solving hard problems.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:45 AM) No one wants a life that sucks...hell..isn't that why you become a programmer?...now put that on a larger scale sean..
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:44 AM) Legions of hard working, preditorial teenagers with great educations are comming
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:44 AM) Funny, what you are advocating is happening all over the world.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:44 AM) Punishing success is not the way to a better society sean..
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:43 AM) You need to stop projecting your sterotypes on to me.
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:43 AM) Fact is that if the human race is going to survive we have to get away from scarcity mentality and move to abundance mentality.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:43 AM) You need to quite with the "Why I can't" and start concentrating on "Why you Can!!"..sean
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:42 AM) Not everyone wants to be CEO piggy.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:42 AM) Look around you sean...are you just a whining sheep because you keep getting sheared or are you working to become the shearer..?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:41 AM) How many Bill Gates can society create?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:41 AM) Bill Gates became wealth by having a value to IBM that IBM didn't know was valuable.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:41 AM) You think someone from the gov called him up and told him what to do?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:40 AM) You presume way to much there little man.
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:40 AM) A lot of those wages evaporated thanks to the crash.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:40 AM) He figured it out...you haven't..
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:40 AM) Leaning programming was just Bill Gate's tool to becoming weathy....
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:39 AM) You make good wages sean...are you putting those wages to work for you?...or are you just enjoying your wages like they were a treat to consume?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:38 AM) and timing.
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:38 AM) Right there are elements of skill, luck, and manipulation
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:38 AM) Those who have lots of money didn't get that by just working at their job real hard and saved their wages..
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:37 AM) err should be like
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:36 AM) So everyone is like your BIL?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:36 AM) My ex-brother in law has it figured out...he doesn't even have a HS education and lives like a millionaire...why?..because he figured out how to use money as a tool....
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:36 AM) It is you who is being lazy. Being able to catagorize large groups of the population and absolve yourself of responsibility is a lot easy than trying to find a real answer
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:34 AM) Sit down in the Small business center and see what is going on with the entrepenurs trying to a loan
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:34 AM) Just because someone has learned a particular skill doesn't make them entitled to success in all aspects of life sean...just means they are very good assembly line workers in society..
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:32 AM) Well Piggy I tell ya what. Why don't drive on down to LSU-S. Spend a few hours in the carrer center helping some of these lazy college grads look for work. Come back and see if you still think the same way.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:32 AM) If we let Obama write the laws..then we ARE letting the criminals "write" the laws...right?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:31 AM) Should we let criminals right the laws for crime? Should we let Credit card industry right the laws for credit cards?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:31 AM) It's there for all to achieve...unless we become controlled by communists..
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:30 AM) Just because you are merely just an ankle bracelett is your own fault
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:30 AM) Then why do you act like there are two seperate set of rules
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:30 AM) The obvious answer is one society.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:30 AM) No sean...there is just one society...
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:29 AM) Are there two societies one for the rich and one for the poor or is there just one society?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:29 AM) It's your choice sean...unless Obama makes it impossible ...
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:28 AM) Are there two societies one for the rich and one for the poor or is there just one society?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:28 AM) You need to look at money as a tool sean...not look at it like a treat!
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:27 AM) Are there two societies one for the rich and one for the poor or is there just one society?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:27 AM) I am piggy.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:27 AM) Then go get you some of those profits sean..and quit whining about it...
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:27 AM) Are there two societies one for the rich and one for the poor or is there just one society?
Gullit  : (15 May 2012 - 07:26 AM) bologna, that's not how the rich got rich
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:26 AM) The rich are rich because of profits gleaned from the lower and middle classes.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:26 AM) Becoming the sheep shearer isn't going to be handed to you...you have to put in the effort sean..
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:25 AM) Quit twisting my analogy
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:25 AM) I think you are creating an argument that doesn't exist so you can feel better about the problem at hand.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:24 AM) Well then quit being a sheep sean!
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:24 AM) Have the poor been sheered or skinned?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:24 AM) You can sheer a sheep many times you can skin them only once.
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:22 AM) You see rich people and complain about why YOU aren't rich like they are...rather than roll up your slieves and try to become successful like those rich folks...you want to slap the shit out of them because you failed and they didn't...
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:19 AM) Quit whining about those who have...
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:18 AM) Sean..you have to travel that road called life...you have equiped yourself with all sorts of fancy tools to make that trip easier but yet lack the skills to actually use those tools....just because you get you a hammer does not mean you can build a house sean...
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:16 AM) I mean you shouldn't rely on your emotions that you just heard from fox and friends and try to present there argument without hearing the other side.
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:16 AM) How much of the literature from occupy have you read?
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:15 AM) Don't you mean you should quit whining because others have learned the skills to do something with their tools..?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:15 AM) You still think you are being accurate.
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:15 AM) You are making generalizations about others making generalizations about people who generally can't find jobs.
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:14 AM) Piggy come back to reality
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:10 AM) People who have the skills to fend for themselves don't whine to have their government hand them their meals and then whine about it's content and it being delivered on time....sounds like you are one of those...you think just because you leanred how to program a computer...you are automatically entitled to success..
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:07 AM) When do you plan to live up to that statement pig?
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:07 AM) No one is saying it does
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:06 AM) Life is continuing ED...
Pigdog  : (15 May 2012 - 07:06 AM) Just because someone is a crackshot in some field doesn't mean he is the same at everything in life...
sean  : (15 May 2012 - 07:06 AM) I served my country to get my education. Nothing was handed to me.
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